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mick menda
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16-Jul-2008 23:27
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New! Topic: Event sequencer (for request for code for project)

Hi all you programmer people

I wnder if some kind soul can help me?

I have a project on the go which involves 10 sequencial logic level outputs with presetable times on each of the output pins

I imagine it would be very easy to do with a chip if you know how. Unfortunately I don't know even basic programming so I was hoping that someone would take up the challenge.

I don't know what the times are yet so I would need very simple instructions as to how to set and change them.

Once the correct times are set they never need changing
I have access to a programmer so have no problem with the hardware

I know programming is easy but i am very busy and don't have time. Obviously, No doubt I could learn how to do the programming, I simply don't have the time. You people know and like chalenges. here is my chalenge for you.

Thanks for any help

Mike

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Per Westermark
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17-Jul-2008 00:02
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New! RE: Topic: Event sequencer (for request for code for project)

A) Your request doesn't represent a challenge, other than to understand it. http://projecteuler.net/ would be more of a challenge for a sw developer.

B) You don't have the time, but assume that the people on this list do.

C) If you expect to get - what do you spend your time donating?

D) How can anyone help you when you don't supply a reasonable amount of information?

E) You have a programmer - for what?

F) You don't have a problem with the hardware - we don't even know what hardware it is, so we most definitely have a problem with it.

G) "know programming is easy" Is that why we reject some people who have spent a number of years at university? If it is so easy, how could they fail to be good enough to be acceptable?

H) Why have you taken upon you to do something you admit that you don't have the knowledge for?

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Mike Kleshov
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17-Jul-2008 00:49
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New! RE: Topic: Event sequencer (for request for code for project)

It takes some skill and effort to even write a good specification for what you are trying to make, let alone implement it. It takes a professional engineer if you want a quality job. Of course, it can be done in amateur-home-project style, but that's a different story.
Anyway, I think you expect a bit too much here.

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mick menda
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17-Jul-2008 01:21
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New! RE: Topic: Event sequencer (for request for code for project)

Thanks for the reply but what I need is 10 separate outputs and as I said I don't have any programming skills, I'm an expert with analogue / audio.

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i am zokkij
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17-Jul-2008 03:43
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try to start with this one:

http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_105013/article.html

from sc 08 2005 .. there are source code which you can see and change and sch too (easy to adapt for your req)

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Andy Neil
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17-Jul-2008 05:07
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New! RE: I wnder if some kind soul can help me?

Yes - and there's a list of them here: http://www.keil.com/condb

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mick menda
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17-Jul-2008 05:33
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New! RE: I wnder if some kind soul can help me?

Now it is v urgent and I need some help now.

Plz send the code to me at:

mick_menda@AT@canibuildit.in

bcoz I do not want spam you must replace the @AT@ with the @. if you do not i Wont get your email.

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Mike Kleshov
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17-Jul-2008 05:40
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New! RE: I wnder if some kind soul can help me?

Is this some kind of a joke?
If it is, I don't get it. Is this forum moderated?

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Christoph Franck
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17-Jul-2008 05:51
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New! RE: I wnder if some kind soul can help me?

Is this some kind of a joke?

Possibly. Some postings are so borderline strange that they're more likely jokes than not.

Is this forum moderated?

No. You don't even need to register. That might be a reason for all the joke postings.

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Tamir Michael
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17-Jul-2008 05:40
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New! RE: I wnder if some kind soul can help me?

...i Wont get your email

this seems to me a concise and clear observation.

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Dan Henry
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17-Jul-2008 05:43
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New! RE: I wnder if some kind soul can help me?

"Now it is v urgent and I need some help now."

OK, OK! Settle down. It took me a few minutes longer than I had hoped.

Check mick_menda@AT@canibuildit.in to get the results of your request.

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Per Westermark
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17-Jul-2008 05:55
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New! RE: I wnder if some kind soul can help me?

I _so_ hate the lack of registration to this forum. It is impossible to separate the fools from the fools. Some posts are made by fools who believe what they write. Some posts are made by fools who think they are clever to troll around.

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Jonny Windapeg
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17-Jul-2008 06:04
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New! Nobody should be immune from the statement!

"It is impossible to separate the fools from the fools. Some posts are made by fools who believe what they write."

http://www.keil.com/forum/docs/thread12822.asp

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erik malund
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17-Jul-2008 06:09
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New! here is an event sequencer for you

Plz send the code to me

here is an event sequencer for you:

1) specify what you need
2) send the spec to several consultants with a request for quote
3) choose a consultant
4) pay the consulatnt
5) receive what you need

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mick menda
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17-Jul-2008 06:17
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New! RE: here is an event sequencer for you

Hi everybody which sweetly answered,

sorry for the fast msgs but i type Quickly and you probebly think i Am being Stupid ;)))))

i looked For my email but have not got it yet.

i Will write the file to specify exactely what i Need and give more details.

it is v Urgent and i will give a consultants the money bcoz i do not have the time to do it.

Thanks for the time you have for me today.

Mike

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Per Westermark
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17-Jul-2008 06:14
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

But if people write things they don't believe in - wouldn't that be called lying?

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Tamir Michael
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17-Jul-2008 06:20
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

Jonny ,
I failed to understand your point. The post to which you refer is riddled with the opinions of people who are
1. not fools at all (I think)
2. passionately believe in what they say/do.

So, what do you have to say for yourself?

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Jonny Windapeg
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17-Jul-2008 06:38
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

"So, what do you have to say for yourself?"

Where should I start? Hmmm, how about the beginning.

The thread was started by someone [appearing] to want the crazy exchanges between some of the frequent posters to stop.

What did it do? It triggered the transfer of an exchange of views that were being repeatedly given in other threads.

You understand me? The thread to complain has actually turned into the same type of thread that the OP (supposedly) was wanting to stop. Unbelievable, huh!

"The post to which you refer is riddled with the opinions of people..."

It reminds me of the time I was trying to explain to my three year old daughter that saying blue was a better colour that red was meaningless.

Enough for you?

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Per Westermark
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17-Jul-2008 06:47
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

So please suggest a solution to our problem.

We have asked for registrations to post on this forum. Keil obviously do not want registrations.

And Keil obviously do not moderate this forum, even if they now and then take care of a thread.

Posting: "Please don't pick fights" does not help.

Posting: "Please be nice" does not help.

Positive feedback: What unturned stones are left to try?

To debate, you normally need a goal. If the goal _is_ to debate, then only Keil can do anything about it.

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Tamir Michael
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17-Jul-2008 06:48
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

there is no reason to be rude. if you have something to say to the people responsible for these exchanges, why don't you post something at the thread in question? who knows, maybe you will make them see the light.

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Jonny Windapeg
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17-Jul-2008 06:59
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

"there is no reason to be rude."

Erm, I suggest you read the exchanges in that thread and the others.

If the frequent posters can't behave in a civil manner, why should they expect anybody else to be civil.

"if you have something to say to the people responsible for these exchanges, why don't you post something at the thread in question?"

These posters seem to propagate throughout the forum; they, like you, will probably notice my comments here.

Also: What has forum registration got to do with this? The problem seems to be most prevalent with the same frequent posters.

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erik malund
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17-Jul-2008 07:42
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Also: What has forum registration got to do with this? The problem seems to be most prevalent with the same frequent posters.
just look at fora requiring real names, much more civility there

Erik

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Per Westermark
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17-Jul-2008 07:45
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

What has frequent posters to do with this? Anyone can create 1000 threads each with 10 posts of rude comments and be a frequent poster.

With some form of registration, the amount of people posting under false names can be reduced. That does affect the climate of a forum.

With registered users, Keil can easily add 5-day suspensions to cool down situations. Without registration, there is no user to suspend.

With some form of control - of which registration is an important part - new visitors doesn't have to be shell-chocked for accidentally trigging long and violent outbursts. This thread is starting to get long, but at least still not violent.

A web forum works similar to the rest of the world. A lot of people drives a little bit more carefuly if they know that a police may see them. Just knowing that a moderator may react is enough for many web fora/forums.

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Jonny Windapeg
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17-Jul-2008 07:53
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

"What has frequent posters to do with this?"

To someone who has been watching this forum for a few weeks, it would appear that the most vitriolic posts are from the frequent (or probably better for me to say regular) posters. Again, refer to the thread I previously highlighted.

These regular posters would presumably register if the facility existed; but, I wonder, would it stop the rampant self-destruction?

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Per Westermark
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17-Jul-2008 07:55
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

Less anonymous taunting would make a difference.

A 5-day suspension would make a difference.

You haven't helped with any suggestion how to solve this problem without involving Keil.

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Jonny Windapeg
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17-Jul-2008 08:05
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

"Less anonymous taunting would make a difference."

To me, Erik Malund is just as anonymous as Jack Sprat.

For all I know, Erik Malund might be some sort of moniker and Jack Sprat might be a real name.

The taunting seems to occur quite frequently amongst the regulars.

As for suggestions, the first would be that the regulars grow up and loose some of their inflated egos.

Again, simply refer to the post I highlighted.

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Per Westermark
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17-Jul-2008 08:09
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

So what would the "other" regulars do then? The ones who can't affect the growing up of some regulars?

Or are all regulars the same?

Let's ban all regulars - case closed.

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Jonny Windapeg
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17-Jul-2008 08:28
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

So what would the "other" regulars do then? The ones who can't affect the growing up of some regulars?

At the very least, consider taking some responsibility. If a commentary is clearly getting heated, say so - And say so forcefully if appropriate. A regular with a calming influence is more likely to be able to control the ramblings more than an outsider (like me).

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Tamir Michael
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17-Jul-2008 09:58
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New! RE: Nobody should be immune from the statement!

Grow up or not, I vehemently oppose to any degradation in the freedom of expression here. No bans please, no penalties, no sanctions whatsoever (at least, as long as no real offense is made). Most of us here are grownups that can handle a blow of two (I nearly almost caused Andy Neil a hart attack, but he actually misunderstood and I was quick to correct!).

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erik malund
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17-Jul-2008 08:12
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New! degrees of civility!

free for all: 0
moderated: 2
real name required: 8

I can not recall ever getting into a "heated argument" with anyone posting under their REAL name. Those hiding behind monninkers like sardine and bratwurst freely spill their bile and I have a real problem not responding to someone stating that e.g. my code is non-mainatinable. If the sardine had seen my code and found some nominal aspect less than optimum in mainatainability I would gladly discuss such, but coming out of the blue stating that what I do and she has not seen is non-maintanable is a direct insult.
I have had no insults thrown at me from anyone posting under their real name and has any argument with one such been "heated" is has been on some technical aspect, not personality. "heated a5guments" on technical aspects can be most enlightening, "heated arguments" that are personal attacks can only detract.

Erik

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Tamir Michael
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17-Jul-2008 09:52
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New! RE: degrees of civility!

Nice post, Erik. But think of this: If YOU start using a moniker rather than your real name, is there a chance that attacks on your professional skill would hurt less? I am sure that would be the case. If you agree, maybe we can begin a competition to find the most suitable moniker! say, "Sardine whaler"... :-)

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erik malund
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17-Jul-2008 10:36
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New! hiding behind monnikers

For me to use a monniker would be the same as a teetotaller taking a drink.
If you do not believe in/like/accept/tolerate/.... something and do it yourself, you are not "practicing what you preach".

Erik

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Cactus Blip
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18-Jul-2008 03:11
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New! Ho really?

Those hiding behind monninkers like sardine and bratwurst freely spill their bile

How would you then qualify many of your own posts that are spread throughout this forum? You have been very proficient in spewing your own bile, sir. In this case, you certainly practice what you preach!

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erik malund
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18-Jul-2008 05:12
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New! there is a difference

How would you then qualify many of your own posts that are spread throughout this forum? You have been very proficient in spewing your own bile, sir. In this case, you certainly practice what you preach!
there is a difference between starting the crap and "responding in kind"

Erik

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Per Westermark
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18-Jul-2008 05:45
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New! RE: there is a difference

"there is a difference between starting the crap and 'responding in kind'"

That would be a very, very tiny difference then.

It is way better to not respond at all, if you know that you can't control your temper, or your tongue.

Most companies would throw out people who can't control their outburst, even if it only happens after provocation.

You can never win - or even get close to winning - a debate as long as you can't control your temper. The opposing side will always get the upper hand since they know that you will _always_ loose control.

When in need, leave the keyboard and take a 5min stroll. When you get back and are about to send a response, ask your self this question: Would it be safe to say this to a very big and very mean looking and slightly intoxicated guy you meet in the shadier part of town? If in doubt, try to rephrase before posting.

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Tamir Michael
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18-Jul-2008 05:59
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New! RE: there is a difference

Per,
You are an all-in-one package: technical guidance, safety guidance, spiritual guidance ! Cheers!

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erik malund
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18-Jul-2008 06:30
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New! to Per

pls send me a ping so I can e-mail you.

I realize that my response to your post would trigger a flood of posts, and if this dog is sleeping, let us let it lie.

Erik

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Jonny Windapeg
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18-Jul-2008 23:03
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New! Taking the bull ...

Per,

I admire your initiative.

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Rob Smalding
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17-Jul-2008 13:33
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New! Words: Pot, Kettle, Black

"Those hiding behind monninkers like sardine and bratwurst freely spill their bile and I have a real problem not responding to someone stating that e.g. my code is non-mainatinable."

Do you remember suggesting a while ago that people like me were lazy dogs because I used the large memory model?

http://www.keil.com/forum/docs/thread10196.asp

I don't need to say more on this. It was already said there.

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erik malund
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17-Jul-2008 14:37
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Do you remember suggesting a while ago that people like me were lazy dogs because I used the large memory model?

I guess what you refer to is: I have seen "I use large so I do not have to worry about space" which I read as "I use large because I am a lazy dog"
please note the bold portion which clearly indicates 'opinion'

Do note the the 'lazy dog' is not the one that use 'large' but the one that use 'large' in order not to worry about space.

If anyone has a qualified reason (not just "not to worry"), as seen by those that actually read the whole story, I do not see how it applies, unmless, of course, 'not to worry' happens to be your reason.

Anything with a qualified reason will, of course be a qualified decision, not just "I'm too lazy".

I could, of course, stop worrying and tell my employer that we need to use a processor that is twice as fast with twice the memory. That, however is a very unlikely event.

Regardless, I do believe that the use of 'large' in most cases is unjustified.

Erik

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Rob Smalding
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17-Jul-2008 23:53
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"Do note the the 'lazy dog' is not the one that use 'large' but the one that use 'large' in order not to worry about space."

Unfortunately, that was not the way the posts in the original thread actually read.

I will just remind you: What I saw as the problem was someone posting opinions in a manner that appeared to be authoritative. An action that would probably lead to less experienced people thinking that these opinions are desirable targets; thus limiting their armoury of methods open to them when developing code.

And taking Jonny Windapeg advice, I will now say this:

<NotWrappedInPinkCotton>

It is my opinion that the poster whose posts need curtailing most is the ardent moniker hater himself (aka Mr Ego).

</NotWrappedInPinkCotton>

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Neil Kurzman
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17-Jul-2008 13:55
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New! RE: Topic: Event sequencer (for request for code for project)

http://www.guru.com
http://www.rentacoder.com
http://www.keil.com/condb/

Or try a local college

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